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hand on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner's facing something of a revolt within gop's ranks over his budget plan. we'll have the latest from washington when we come back. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff have ran to something of a holt. john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his bung budget plan. another shanghai surprise. china's mainland market surge nearly 3%. more austerity. plus, austerity measures are hitting european consumers. retail sales in october fall much more than expected. september also revised sharply to the downside. >>> it was a flat day really for european stocks, slightly negative for u.s. stocks yesterday. we are a little bit higher. the dow is currently some 43 points above fair value. the nasdaq is around four points above fair value. the s&p 500 at the moment is around about four points above fair value. european stocks are up half a percent earlier. we have come off those highs. eurozone pmis a little bit better than expected. but still deeply in contraction territory. uk services pmis dipped
john boehner why republicans met today to talk about the fiscal cliff and then are going to go home after the meeting and await for the president's response. here's what mr. boehner said. >> reporter: today's wednesday and the house is going to leave today with two days left in the week. i understand that you are saying that there's no legislation that's been on the floor. but when it comes to just pure optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> mr. speaker, does the conference perhaps realize that you don't seem to be negotiating in all of this? >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. because raising rates will hurt the very people that we're expecting to upgrade jobs in our country. >> all right. house speaker john boehner. let's head back to capitol hill and check in with d
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
for his analysis on that. martha: the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner set to have a face-to-face meeting, one-on-one. we're waiting to hear from speaker boehner in just about 50 minutes away now. we'll bring you that live. bill: also, it has been 40 years, four full decades since the last man stepped on the moon. that was an american. his name is gene cernan. we'll talk to hem this hour. the last person to see the moon's craters up close and personal. >> ♪ i was stroeling on the moon one day, in a merry, merry of month of -- december. >> may, may. ♪ much to my surprise a pair of eyes, -- >> this is a neat way to travel. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. bill: we now have a verdict for a bus driver on trial for manslaughter. it will be revealed this morning although the verdict was reached yesterday because a juror had to leave the courtho
that could be just ahead. just beyond the storm clouds. the fiscal cliff is fixable. every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being done. john king, ken rogath is the former chief economist at the international monetary fund and diane swonk joins us from mezro financial. john, some people say don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done in an 11th hour deal. as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> both sides digging in. you played the president saying, i want that rate hike. the republicans say we'll give you the revenues but not through a rate hike. the president believes he won the election and he upped the ante saying he wants twice as much in tax revenues than he wanted a year and a half ago. the president believes he has higher ground under this. i think maybe the democrats have a deeper trench, if you will. they have public opinion on their side. if you talk to people in washington there is a sense that at the last minute reason will prevail. there is a not a lot of optimism. you know this and my colleagues k
john boehner and representative pelosi on the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> we have had these explosions of knowledge in medicine, but we have not coordinated care and all of the services that we have end up having cracks that they are as harmful as the diseases that we are treating. you need to step back and ask -- are we hurting people overall on a global level? what are we doing sometimes? now we have the institute of medicine report to think. 30% of everything we do may not be necessary in healthcare? 30% of the medications that we describe? the procedures? this is something that is for the first time really being called out as a problem. >> dysfunction in the u.s. healthcare industry. dr. marty makary on his book " unaccountable." on c-span 2. >> it is estimated that it would cost -- [indiscernible] [bells ringing] >> i chose to honor both. the sacrifice of american servicemen fighting their way through the pacific and a little girl who died as a result of an atomic bombing. it is unimaginable what that must've been like to be close to the center where the fireball
a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the bottom line is the president and speaker boehner have not spoken now in several days. so there is really no signs of progress. there has been some discussion that look that's just happening in public. behind closed doors maybe they are gaining some ground, i have spoken to some top white house officials tonight some top republicans on the hill they say in private they are not making progress either, shep. >> shepard: republicans say they have offered some compromises. >> they have in the sense that speaker boehner with his policy late yesterday put $100 billion in new tax revenue on the table. that was a concession by him but not far enough as you noted for the white house because the white house wants him to not just raise tax reve
story. house speaker john boehner sent the president a new fiscal cliff counteroffer, we'll have more on that in a minute. and a change in the house plan, the house will come in at 6:30 eastern with one vote on what's called the journal, the record of the previous day's proceedings. members will not vote today as they had planned earlier on a motion to negotiate with the senate on the bill to set defense programs and policy for next year. and as the fiscal cliff negotiations continue we spoke earlier today with a capitol hill reporter. >> what was the purpose of speaker boehner's appearance to speak about the fiscal cliff? >> you saw each major congressional player give some sort of speech but i think anything happening of consequence is happening between speaker bayne around the president and it's happening in a closely guarded, off-camera, way, they're actually trying to negotiate a deal and the rule of washington is when a deal is being done, people don't talk about it. when a deal is collapse, you know because they're both shouting about what the other side is doing. you saw speak
you, guys. >> earlier this hour, you heard democratic senator mark warner's take on the fiscal cliff. now republican senator john barraso is coming up. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. halls of congress all day today as part of our mission critical coverage. this morning chairman kent conrad sat down with becky quick and jim cramer. let's hear what he had to say about reaching a deal. >> we are on the cusp of having the possibility of doing the big d
and house speaker john boehner met today at the white house to talk about ways to resolve the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we have brand-new reaction from lawmakers from both sides of the aisle speaking out today with just weeks left to reach a deal and little reported progress. the fight appears to be moving towards spending cuts and more and more republicans seem to open to the call to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue. we 6 one house and that is it. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where i go ahead and give the president the 2%, one speaker calls for an increase in revenues to 39.6 and the other things that the president hats called for. we have done trillion in cuts but we realize there will have to be other cuts and serious negotiations about that. we will have different views. my view and senator corker's views are different but we will have to find spending cuts. >> heather: brad blakeman is assistant to george w. bush and j
the fiscal cliff talks by going to c-span.org and clicking on the link. we will year from representative john larson on the fiscal cliff negotiations. after that, we will hear from stephen ohlemacher. you can see "washington journal" everyday life at 7 p.m. -- 7 a.m. eastern here on c-span. coming up next on c-span, the in going an upcoming german discusses what they want to see and a and budget deal. then david walker and rudy penner discuss the fiscal cliff negotiations. later, a discussion on the potential impacts of the negotiations and state budgets. >> the white house was very controversial, as most americans were. they designed washington city. there was competition. he designed a design for a palace. it was not particularly awe- inspiring. in fact, a european diplomat told congress it was neither large or awe-inspiring. but the answer the congressman gave was the building serves its purpose. it is larger and more elegant. photo mer new york times bodh critic on the white house. watch it on sunday on c-span three on "american history tv per." >> congressman steve scalise and jim jordan
there may be only two people at the fiscal cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks. and clearing a negotiating room improves the chances for success. just 25 minutes from now the closely watched monthly unemployment report will be released for november. coming up at 5:15 what economists say the numbers released this morning don't accurately reflect the current jobs market. >>> time now 5:05. reports an oakland church youth group visiting florida today is out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday. about an hour after arriving for a weekend youth conference. they are saying thieves broke into their van, stole $12,000 cash. one member of the group was able to have money wired to them so they at least spent last night in a hotel. there is no word yet if this group plans to come back to
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at the fiscal cliff and we look at john boehner and you're right, he did give up revenue. he said okay. i'm going to cave on that. we'll raise revenue. but the president has been absolutely adamant, i'm not budging unless the top 2% pay a higher rate. not just revenue, a higher rate. >> the top 2% will pay higher taxes because of the revenue rates that we will raise without raising the tax rates. once you raise the tax rates, they become permanent. you can't change them. it will be almost impossible to change them and of course, that affects, like i say, almost a million small businesses and about 700,000 jobs. that's what the american people aren't getting from the debate on this subject. frankly, it is a bait and switch because the president has put out a plan that even democrats won't support that literally will not work, that literal israeli going to cause even more spending than we have right now, and put us even more than the 16 trail, $300 billion debt that we're incurring, going up every day. >> steve: senator, for generations, americans have always tried to make sure that our chi
? >> we wait. you hope there will be a resolution with the fiscal cliff. also 2013 could be a difficult year. it's the first year of the presidential term which is usually a weak un. earnings growth looks a little bit weaker. we are very big on di dends. we believe this is a grinded out market. prepare for instability. >> so it's glass half empty for you right now. >> we'd like to be optimistic but tell clients buy with sound balance sheets. and if the market goes up better, we're in a better position. >> i have to press you on what you say about you like companies that pay better dividends? >> right now you're looking at the. senate bill will will tax for gross incomes of $250,000. that's not a deal killer. there was an article this week talking about how dividends -- people buy dividends for income and downside protection. those issues do not go away regardless of what happens with taxes. people need income. >> you told us last time you liked europe. what about here in the united states? what would you buy here? >> well, i wouldn't buy anything if i haven't bought it already. i would
there is no progress to report. >> fiscal cliff negotiations. >> one-on-one right now. >> are now a party of two. >> the two most important players. >> the president and the speaker. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> a two-man operation. >> there is no progress. >> we are seeing progress. >> there is a jobs report today. >> unemployment down to 7.7%. better than expected. thank you very much. >> we dropped a whole point in a year. >> there is no progress. >> members of congress are always upset. >> they are taking us to the cliff. >> the momentum is with the president. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> did you say over? >> they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> nothing is over until we decide it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step
. and in just about 15 minutes, democrats will be speaking out about the fiscal cliff saying medicaid should not be subject to cuts. in the past 48 hours since president obama and john boehner met face to face, no details on the discussions have -- have been released. the president said he's willing to compromise but maintains his stance on tax increases for the wealthy. >> we ask the wealthiest americans to pay 2%. i won't comhe promice on -- compromise on that >> reporter: and then an official came on tv and said they could save money by making tax cuts to the food stamp program. >>> aig is selling off most of its profit and the government will end up with a profit of $22 billion, to many people's surprise. aig was rescued in 2008 just before it had to file for bankruptcy. now aig executives say the company may be able to pay a dividends to the shareholders by next summer. >>> we're learning about an up expected new fee that's part of the reforms. it's a temporary $63 per person fee designed to help pay for people with preexisting conditions. it will hit health plans affecting 9 0 million
administration may be ready to include these in a fiscal cliff deal with republicans. whatever negotiations are taking place between the president and speaker john boehner, whatever each side is prepared to give up a a level of security. it's totally possible the white house actually has no intent on messing with medicare or social security benefits. but for the left the chatter is ominous. it's coming from well sourced reporters and we've been down this road before. the pursuit with john boehner in 2011, obama was willing. there's reason to suspect there's something to all this chatter. and the question then becomes why? why would obama who simply by doing nothing these next few weeks could get the tax hike on the wealthy he's been demanding without touching medicare and social security? why would he entertain such drastic changes to the safety net? most likely culprit is the dreaded debt ceiling. here's why. republicans came to these talks with no leverage. the consequences of doing nothing before the december 31st meeting were worse for them than democrats. they looked into 2013 and mayb
their own people. >>> president obama and john boehner will talking on the phone about the fiscal cliff. still, there's no real progress. this all comes as another republican says he's willing to break ranks regarding this. tom coburn said that he -- some are looking for a way to save grace as they move in. >>> allison turns reports, hundreds of thousands of california jobs could be lost. alison? >> reporter: and dave, the defense industry projects about 135,000 jobs would be lost in california over the next few years if those tax increases and massive spending cuts kick in at the end of this month. if there's no deal on those, the pentagon was initially told not to plan for the cuts. that's all changed. in the last 24 hours, the pentagon leaders say they are preparing to slice about 10% of the budget. if we go over the fiscal cliff experts predict one in five defense contracts in california could be -- would be lost. both parties say there's still time to reach a deal and avoid those major losses. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure this gets reso
out of the way. it seems like quietly we're making progress on the fiscal cliff, people are saying garbage out in public. john boehner sitting down with the president, seems these two men are getting the job done. >> i think it is real. the president, no public events yesterday. even yesterday's event was never designed to be a fiscal cliff photo-op. there are very few fiscal cliff photo-ops planned this week. it is serious business. they have to come to a framework at the end of this week if they're going to get it written in time and passed in time so they all don't have to spend christmas in washington. joe, realize, whatever deal they agree to, it will be very fragile and it's likely to include more triggers for the end of next year. so they'll agree to some tax reform. if they can't write it, then say the highest tax rate will move from 37 to 39. on entitlements, they'll agree they have to find a certain amount of money and special commission but if they don't agree to it maybe the eligibility age goes automatically up. they'll be sort of sequester triggers to force the action
have won. >>> house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday exchanging new fiscal cliff proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday and he went down a couple of hundred billion from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion over ten years. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters, of "abc news," president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> remain optimistic there are enough people of good will in this country families will be much better off when we get this done. the most important thing is make sure middle class taxes don't go up on january first and i'm pretty sure republicans would not hold middle class tax cuts hostage to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> prediction, are you going to be able to raise taxes yes or no? >> taxes will go up one way or another. the key is to make sure taxes go up on high end individuals, like you and me, barbara, we can afford it. >> you can see the rest of that interview on abc's 20/20 this friday. hopefully, you will hear barbara walters come pellingly say will be able to cut spending? d
: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not enough
looking for work. earlier today on capitol hill john boehner commented on the fiscal cliff negotiations with reporters. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wastde another week. secretary gitener came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending thanned the in cuts. and an indefinite increase in the debt limit like for ever. now four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no count offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate stradgeji to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. w
the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we will talk about at the top of the hour, in one day on friday, republican legislators in michigan forced through right-to-work legislation, destroying labor unions in a state that labor built, but unions are getting organized. they are going to be big -- there are going to be big protests and they are they say they will not allow them to get away with this. we will talk about that. the latest. today's current news update from lease a ferguson out in los angeles. hi, lisa. good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. big banks are in for another round of trouble thanks to a fresh waves of lawsuits facing claims they sold more than $1 trillion of bond securities backed by home mortgages. banks have paid tens of billions of dollars to settle other lawsuits and some in the industry fear they are facing up to another $300,000,000,000 in losses. many homeowners and investors could argue they deserve a payout from the banks after seeing their mortgages collapse during the financial crisis but economists say those costs cou
that this mania for a fiscal cliff deal is disturbing but i think the president could say -- promise virtually anything at this point. i don't think he gets a deal because john boehner has crazy member who is will never let him to agree to the tax rates the president will hold the line on and he's kind of safe in that way because i don't think that there will be a deal. >> amen, joan. thank you very much. honored to have you on the show. >> honored to be here. >>> straight ahead, for all the talk on china, policy expert said their gain could be ours, too. the guest spot is next. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> the chinese dragon is awake and ready to
on the budget committee. what is john thune's plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. he's coming in. >> brian: first, the aflac trivia question, born on this day in 1932, this actress received an academy award nomination for her lead role in "the exorcist." who is she? be first. you'll get a hug. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. nespresso. where i never have to compromise on anything. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect coffee. where every cappuccino and latte is only made with fre
on the rally we saw yesterday. >>> this is today's fiscal cliff update. u.s. budget talks have intensified. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday. after exchanging new proposals, aides confirm the president gave boehner a revised offer on behind, reducing his demand for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion over ten years. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks to his original offer a week ago. reports suggest the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. which it hasn't done before. in an interview with abc news, the president says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off, american families will be much better off, f we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1, and i'm confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for
to come to an agreement on the debt ceiling or -- and on the fiscal cliff? forget it. >> it was remarkable to see how this happened yesterday. i will read from john stanton's twitter feed our friend from business feed. i was there -- buzzfeed. his presence could push it over the edge. dole was there watching them vote. after he left the floor, he said the republicans very quietly got up, didn't vote from their desk. they got up quietly walked up to vote. he said that was remarkable because nobody wants that video in a commercial of them voting against bob dole, against people with disabilities. >> yeah, senator moran now, i forget his first name from texas who, i'm sorry from kansas jerry moran of kansas. i think he has the bob dole seat. he put out a press release with john mccain praising the treaty when it was first brought to the senate. he voted against it yesterday. these guys are courts and mean and they don't care. they don't care about the disabled either. my point is, again, this is the gang that the president has got to do bu
of the president's -- on the fiscal cliff. it's part of the president's plan to help raise taxes on the 2% of wealthy americans. >>> and president obama met privately with house speaker john boehner at the white house over the weekend. it was their first one-on-one meeting since the crisis. >>> 8:06. a federal judge expected to approve a plan to give control of the oakland police department to a court-appointed director. this comes after oakland failed to meet a federal judge's order to make reforms agreed to in the settlement of the riders police brutality case. the director will have the power to spend city money, change police procedures and if the police department continues to fail to make reforms even fire the police chief. >>> well, a man accused of shooting and killing a driver in a road-rage incident is talking now. brian jones is in the sacramento county jail. now, he admitted he fired shots at another driver in sacramento. it happened after jones says his sister said she was being followed by someone she didn't know saturday morning. she called brian for help. jones admit, he c
security as part of the fiscal cliff talks. later, more on the role of social security with christina martin of aarp and david john of the heritage foundation. washington journal in life every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. -- is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the white house was very controversial. designed, who washington city, there was competition and he submitted the design for a palace. americans were not having a palace. it was not particularly awe inspiring. in 1821, a european diplomat told congress it was nearly -- neither large nor awe inspiring but the answer he gave said the building served its purpose. if it were larger and more elegant, perhaps some president would be inclined to become its permanent resident. >> vicky goldberg has gathered a few of whitehouse photos. watch sunday evening at 7:30 on c-span3's >> from the u.s. chamber of commerce, and look at the fiscal challenges facing the nation. including negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff. former comptroller general david walker and former congressional budget office director rudy
of budget deal for this fiscal cliff situation. this as more republican lawmakers took to the airwaves over the weekend saying they are indeed open to raising taxes but only in return for a plan that would get them a significant amount of cuts in entitlement spending. here is some of that from sunday. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> a for honesty but f for effort. you can't get it done, george. you can't take us off the road to bankruptcy unless you deal with structural reforms to entitlement spending. martha: south carolina republican senator lindsey graham, good to have you in studio. >> great to be here. martha: got out of the craziness of washington for couple days. >> my export expires. martha: you'll need one. talk negotiating tactics. does it make sense at this point in the game, what does it do to undercut john boehner's leverage when folks go out there and say we're willing to go book to 39.6%, as bob corker said over the weekend? is it helpful? >> i think it is hopeful for the republicans on the revenue side we're willing
right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place
by this weekend. so this weekend is the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: because it takes a while to write the bills. >> eric: and has to originate in the house and right now, john boehner and president obama are miles apart allegedly. it doesn't look like they're gotting any closer. so it's got to go to the house, then gets sent, assuming it passes, to the senate, gets marked up and has to be agreed upon in committees and conference and then eventually gets signed by the president. >> steve: it just takes time. >> eric: there is a holiday. >> gretchen: somebody who had to handle something similarly about a decade ago was rudy guiliani when he was mayor of new york city. he was faced with a circumstance of do i raise taxes? do i cut spending? do i do a combination of both? he was on hannity last night explaining what he ultimately decided to do. >> i was given a report, report said, you have to raise taxes across the board. said nothing about reducing spending. and i said to myself, i wasn't an economic expert then. i became one after being mayor of new york. and i said, this doesn't make sense. if
is expecting 93,000 jobs. >>> there's no deal to resolve the fiscal cliff but there are indications of inside-the-scenes talk. the white house told reporters that lines of communication remain open not sure exactly what that means but a spokesman for house speaker john boehner used a similar phrase. maybe that means call me? i don't know. analysts say there are some suggestions that there's real progress that can be made. >>> a 7.3 magnitude earthquake hit the northeastern coast of japan this morning, the same area as the devastating march 2011 quake. but there was a tsunami warning canceled and reports of injuries or damage even though the quake shook buildings. workers at the fukushima nuclear plant were ordered to higher ground as a precaution. >>> our guest host is dan gilbert, he's chairman and founder of quicken loans and the owners of the nba's cleveland cavaliers and among the topics we're ready to talk about dan, the risk of the looming fiscal cliff and the broader economy. we'll start with this morning's other top stories. dan, welcome, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >
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